obama campaign has a 1 to 5. rush limbaugh would be 1, michelle obama would be 5. if you lay these over in ohio, what the republicans believe the obama campaign has done is banked a lot of their high propensity vote who were going to show up anyway. what they're trying to do is call the low propensity voters in ohio and turn out a hire percentage of their high propensity voters on election day. the obama campaign acknowledges some of the folks banking now are probably closer to the high propensity scale. they do believe there'll be enough of a firewall particularly in northern ohio to get that state across the finish line. >> shira, there's a new tampa bay times, bay news, "miami herald" poll mitt romney leading by 6 points. however our poll, the nbc marist poll shows the president leading by two. we're all scratching our heads here. what do you make of these polls and the difference between them? >> well, it's obvious that both campaigns still view it as a battle ground. we can see that by where they put their money. the obama campaign made a renewed effort, i gue